we just formed in 2004 well it kind of a cool story we were all just a bunch of skte bording kids who like music and we all had the right insturments so we started jamming in my garrage we had trouble finding a name becouse we were gonna use THRICE but we found out that was a real band we searced and found it in a magisine i dont no what the nme of it was but eny way thats our story